It is not a special character, you fucking imperialist, it is my (first) last name.
@alva Oh, you must have it difficult, yup. Fuck anglocentric systems :Arthur's fist:
@xiroux same problèm here :( tinc un È ...
@xiroux yeah I have the same problem with my family name because it has a squiggle
@tursiops I don't know what a squiggle is 🤔
@xiroux ~ this is a squiggle :)
@tursiops Ah cool! Like the one in the spanish ñ? :)
@alice @tursiops In spanish, a "tilde" is the straight line in áéíóú, but the curly thing in "la eñe" (it is its name, indeed) is called "virgulilla", which is a really cool name. The Royal Spanish Academy accepts "tilde" as the name of the thingie on top of the "ñ", too, though, but I like "virgulilla" better :3
@xiroux my "special character" is ć
@hirojin ACAB All Characters Are Beautiful
Same problem here, a lot of systems shit the bed at even having a double-barrelled name. >.>
@cattebune After wikipedia-ing "double-barrelled name", I saw that's another problem we Spaniards always have: the usual thing in Spanish names is to have two surnames (the first of the father and the first of the mother). So we don't even really have a last name, but two! But they don't usually mind having a space in the "Last name" field 🤷♂️
That's usually the work around I have to use, do you ever run into the whole last name too long issue? Like there's a character limit for names in some places I tend to run into. Seems a lot of Devs don't expect People to have anything other than Bob Smith as their name...
@xiroux airline: please enter your name exactly as it is in your passport
me: Igor Galić
airline: lol no, not like that
@xiroux basically, the problem is that banking, and airline software and protocols were designed and developed in 60s, and every iteration is basically just putting a new client interface on a COBOL monstrosity
and when the COBOL monstrosities do get replaced, they do with bug-compatible java services
so a chance for progress, or inclusion is practically nil.
exercise for the courageous: try to wire someone in China some money.
@xiroux accented characters have been standard encoding since before unicode. for like 30 years. there's no excuse for this shit.
@xiroux my favorite is the US visa application form.
It says to enter your name EXACTLY AS IT APPEARS in your passport.
Then it throws an error that you entered non-English characters.
Do US passports allow accents? UK passports don't: "Due to IT considerations, the British passport will not be issued with a name using numbers, symbols or punctuation marks other than hyphens or apostrophes; or any diacritical marks such as accents."
@xiroux @wim_v12e @uint8_t I am in heart emoji with this whole conversation. Not least because I’m building some regex to parse names among other things, and I’m here just like “[a-zA-Z\. \’] should do the trick yeah.”
Also y’all’re joyous in your enthusiastic worldliness so happy Wednesday/Thursday, whichever fits.
@xiroux The thing I love the absolute most about this kind of only-ASCII-characters-are-real stupidity is:
You can't even write proper *English* with just ASCII characters! English has plenty of words that need characters outside of ASCII! "Naïve" is a perfectly fine English word, as is "coördinate", is a bit old-fashioned. To say nothing of "résumé".
@xiroux they do the same with the eñe
@Frostclaw20 Thank god I don't have an eñe in my name.
@xiroux honestly most of the time when something like this happens on a website it's not because someone made a decision to not allow accented characters in names but rather a much deeper problem of the entire system being likely to explode if someone types one due to the server talking to a mainframe from 1970 or whatever
So they're probably not doing this because of hate or missing knowledge, but rather because the system behind the scenes is already completely broken.
@xiroux This is a "name" field? It doesn't *really* make sense in any field at all, unless the field is restricted by some standard (say an email address) and then filtering based on that sort of thing is either going to be, "no better than not at all" or will reject totally valid content.
@xiroux some sites call it "illegal characters" which is arguably even worse 😡
@xiroux While we are at it, the distinction between first and last name is very european, too.
@pyropeter Yeah, like japanese people, whose names are always reversed in the Western world!
@xiroux I encounter that with sites that don't allow spaces. My surname has a space in it, and it's not that uncommon.
@xiroux your (first last) name is García? That's my (first last) name, Dude.
@garciaefremov Well, it's a quite common (if not the most common) surname in Spain.