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@raucao@kosmos.socialIf you haven't used Firefox in a couple of years, let me tell you: it has come a loooong way. It's slick, fast, full-featured, puts users and privacy first, and the dev tools are great. Short of the DRM drama (in which Google as an active supporter is much more at fault than Mozilla giving in to pressure imo), there should be no reason you couldn't use it as your default Web browser right now.
@raucao well said. If you want to go full nerd on the privacy tweaks check out this site: https://privacytoolsio.github.io/privacytools.io/
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.@raucao agreed, FF has been my browser of choice for desktop and android/mobile for years now. I've installed Brave recently but not got into trying it yet. I use Chrome when I have to (rarely some form doesn't succeed in FF) or to maintain a login on a secondary account. There's also Beaker browser, specifically for decentralised services. I know Beaker from the SAFE Browser which is a fork of Beaker. Nice, but being built on Chromium (as is Signal messenger) some won't like it.
@raucao My thing is the Multiple account switching is a must need for me on Chrome. I do use Firefox for other stuff though.
@s3th They have sth very cool in the pipeline for that: https://blog.mozilla.org/tanvi/2016/06/16/contextual-identities-on-the-web/ (available in Nightly afaik)
@raucao Much much slower than Pale Moon, I use both.
@raucao I always wonder what issues people have with Firefox. It's been my main production browser since it was Firebird 0.6.
@fschaap It was a buggy, slow piece of sh** for a while, compared to the performance of Chrome or Safari for example.
@fschaap Measurable performance deficits are not exactly "eye of the beholder", but to each their own. I'm glad they fixed the pressing deficits and are now full steam ahead into the future, with the first Servo components having entered FF stable just recently.
@raucao Certainly! Noticed this morning FF supports WebRTC 'window sharing' natively. So much nicer than having to install a plugin on Chromium/Chrome :-)
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Except that the password manager and firefox account are horrible securitywise :-(
@Spider True! I use neither.
@raucao I liked synced browsing history, and firefox mobiles "send to device" is bloody amazing.
Just wish they'd fix their password manager to be at least somewhat secure.
And get u2f working.
@Spider U2F support is already working in Nightly on some platforms and is scheduled to be released this quarter. Looking forward to that myself.
@raucao
"Some platforms".
I'm also still waiting for the u2f-nfc to get their ass off and standardize.
@Spider It's all open source, so if you know and care a lot about those topics, maybe help out?
@raucao
Sorry, I burned out on attempting to work with Mozilla back when I had a project depending on the embeddable rendering engine.
It's a pleasant enough community, but the engineering choices make me back away. It's simply not worth the effort.
@Spider Sorry to hear. Anyway, U2F should hopefully be solved sometime soon. I'm also waiting for it.
Perhaps not your fault, but it's taught me not to get into OSS projects ran by large groups/corporations.
@Spider I'm not in any way connected to any large group or corporation. Not personally and not for work. ;)
Cheers.
Now I'm going back to beating on kubernetes. Since being involved with large corporate interest driven software is such engaging times.
@raucao I tried it 6 months ago and it still was running js in the same thread across multiple tabs, leaving one slow site to compromise the performance of the whole browser. has that finally changed?
@nergdron Depends on your OS I think. Here's the official schedule for rollout: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule_and_Status
@raucao Oh, that's super useful to know! yeah, once my platform has this, I'll definitely give FF another shot. Thanks!
@raucao how does it handle 500 tabs?
@fap It invites 30 of them to a party at its house, and texts the rest of them about how it's feeling a bit sick and needs alone time.
@raucao I was a Firefox user until around 1 year ago. I felt the speed was not great. I'm fairly happy with Opera now as I'm avoiding Chrome.
Do you know where can i find a good source of information regarding how FF compares to other browsers in terms of speeed? A year ago, it seemed slower but I would consider switching back
@raucao Is it still a memory hog?
chitter.xyz @raucao (posted from Internet Explorer)
@raucao Javascript stops it in its tracks. I have to use it on this PC because Chrome somehow supercorrupted and crashes after a few moments of using it and it's not bad, but... it reeeeeaaaally hates any javascript.
@raucao Can you customize the search URL yet? If not, then I doubt I will be switching from Vivaldi.
Either way, I will probably give it a go, just so see what changed since I abandoned it (which was roughly around the time *something* bad happened to extensions, but I cannot remember what it was to be honest).
@null Not sure what you mean. If you mean the search engine being used from the address bar, then yes. I use DuckDuckGo incl. mid-typing results.
@raucao Kinda, I use DDG too, but on chromium based browsers you can actually change the URL. This is very useful for example for keeping certain preferences when not saving cookies or using Private Browsing. https://anitwitter.com/media/ImZIc8xPs1Nt-XFlPwA
@raucao how's the android version? stopped using it a while back because it was considerably slower than chrome
@nev Pretty good. I don't have issues on Android.
@raucao I'll give it a try again. one feature I really miss that chrome doesn't have is tagged bookmarks, not just folders
@raucao and if you dont like its newish UI, just install Classic Theme Restorer. combine it with Tab Mix Plus (TMP), Tab Groups and UBlock, and you'll get a fearsome beast. also noteworthy: The effort of the Firebug community to integrate significant, centrally important parts of it into the FF devtools. makes for a way better UX than the one thrown together by Google Chrome.