@lukedashjr Seeing you being someone who has this stuff in their profile bio, and me being someone who was actually cared for by a Catholic order once: Do you know of any halfway decent movement to dethrone what appears to be a bunch of selfish crooks in the Vatican?

@raucao No, I think we would probably need an army or at least significant militia for that.

But even then, modern nations and the UN enjoy the phonies' heresy teachings on government, so they would probably back them up (pretending to be defending "the Church")

@raucao That being said, there are well over a dozen Catholic bishops who publicly denounce the frauds in Vatican City as heretics (and not real clergy/popes at all).

Spiritually, Catholics are well taken care of by them and their priests, even if there is no immediate hope of regaining political power anywhere.

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