Google is now publishing entire countries' citizen movement data, thereby actively helping governments with their dystopian attacks on our most basic freedoms.
Anonymizing your location data doesn't magically turn this into not abusing your location data for something that you didn't agree to. Not sure why you would continuously send your location to Google in the first place, but you should be aware of the fact that they will definitely use it for whatever they want.
@raucao This is a dystopian nightmare.
@raucao "that you didn't agree to", research purposed of whatever kind is probably among the 478 reasons you agreed your data to be used for in the terms and conditions... :|
@stevenroose According to GDPR, using your data for research that is unrelated to the product is illegal.
@stevenroose I'm not even a fan of GDPR, because it allows way too much, so that the worst offenders can abuse your data legally, but this is a clear violation IMO. And it won't be persecuted, only because corona fear cancels out literally everything at the moment.
@stevenroose In most EU countries for example, national laws trump private contract clauses. That's why the German government loves signing corporate deals in Switzerland, where that's not the case.
@raucao Can you find a reference to back this up? It'd surprise me if they couldn't do that "with the user's consent" which basically mean that they always can..
@stevenroose Yes, but that consent has to be explicit. You cannot bury it on the bottom of a ToS page.
@stevenroose Just read GDPR. It's available in English. Don't trust. Verify.
@stevenroose ... my problem with GDPR is the part where it allows things without consent, that go far beyond what was advertised, because it's very vague.
> Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
> (e) processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller
@stevenroose Google does not have authority to do that. But that's what I mean. They can construe public interest now, but who decides if that's correct? I clearly disagree that it's in the public interest to publish location data so governments can enhance curfew enforcement at gunpoint.
@stevenroose That's the thing with GDPR. It's not meant to protect you from governments at all. And also not from most data brokers and such.
@raucao Yeah, that's the case with governments nowadays in general. They have no incentive to protect anyone or anything against itself. Those times have long gone.
@raucao It says or, so if a judge agrees that the "task was carried out in the public interest", they are complying with GDPR..
@stevenroose You mean hundreds of judges in all those countries around the globe. :)
@stevenroose Except for the ones that don't give a fuck in the first place, of course. But then they'd still have to have that in the ToS before.
@raucao What I've been realizing lately is that our big-government habit has become so ingrained that I wouldn't even trust European judges anymore to carry out correct justice based on fundamental freedoms and constitutions. It seems to me that lawyers and judges have become focussed on carrying out the rule of law set by the government instead of being the third branch of society that should protect against the executive and legislative branch.
@raucao Does it define "explicit"?
@stevenroose Except for data that you can construe to be necessary for your business (which it obviously is for data brokers e.g.). But using location data for handing it to the public to fight an epidemic is clearly not Google's business or what you signed up for.
@raucao Well to be fair Google's official purpose has been since inception to "make the world's data available to the public" 😅
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